Thursday, December 12, 2013

Does the Left Have A Plan?

Plans?

Here is AB Yehoshua from Haaretz, March 19, 2004 discussing the after-peace-reality:

There may be a war with the Palestinians. It is not necessary, but it is not impossible . But if so, this war will be a very short war . Maybe a war of six days. For after we remove the settlements and after we stop being an occupation army , all the rules of war will be others. We will use our full power. 

We will not have to search about frantically for this terrorist or that instigator but we'll exert force against an entire population . Employing total power ... This will be a very different war. It will be much more difficult for the Palestinians. If they will fire Qassam rockets at Ashkelon, we will cut-off the electricity in Gaza . We'll interrupt the transcommunications in Gaza. Well prevent fuel from reaching Gaza.. We will apply the full strength as we did with the Egyptians in the cities along the Suez canal in 1969.

And then, Palestinian suffering will be completely different, much more serious, they themselves will eliminate terrorism. The Palestinians themselves will conquer terrorism. They will have no other choice ... they  must but stop the shooting. No matter if it is the Palestinian Authority or Hamas. Who that will take responsibility for fuel, electricity and hospitals and show that they are not functioning, will work within a few days to stop firing rockets. The new situation will completely change the rules of the game .... War is not desirable, but for sure, war purifies. A war will clarify for the Palestinians that they are sovereign . The misery they will suffer in the 'after the conquest' situation will clarify to them that they must stop the violence because they are now sovereign . That once we withdraw I do not want at all to know their names. I do not want a personal relationship with them. I'm not in a situation of occupation and policing and of B'Tselem. But I stand opposite them standing face-to-face before them. State versus state. I'm not going to commit war crimes for their own sake, but I will set all my strength against them . If there is firing on Ashkelon, there'll be no electricity in Gaza.



Earlier, we read this in  Kul Al-Arab, December 28, 2001.

Yehoshua: ..."I believe that the main reason for the decline of the Israeli left is Yasser Arafat. When Arafat stubbornly insisted on rejecting Barak's proposals at Camp David, he brought a catastrophe upon his Palestinian people. Barak proposed to return 95% of the territory but Arafat refused, and that was a big mistake. Following [the launching of the Intifada] I met with many Palestinians and I asked them for the reason that led the Palestinians to use fire [arms] while Israel was led by a left wing government that was seeking peace and proposing solutions to reach it. The Palestinian choice of the Intifada brought about a shift in Israeli public opinion regarding Arafat and his people across the political spectrum – from the most neutral to the most radical."
...I hate Arafat from the bottom of my heart. The dream which we have been trying to realize since 1967 – the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel – amounts today to fiction...Recently, I started to doubt Arafat's ability to continue being Israel's [peace] partner...Arafat does not consider his people's best interest and [the need to find] immediate solutions for their problems. Rather, Arafat thinks about the Palestinian problem in its broader context and about ways to bring back the refugees."
Kul Al-Arab"How long will the issues of Jerusalem and the refugee problem remain unresolved?"
Yehoshua: "I think it is better not to deal with these two issues at the present time since they complicate matters even further. I believe that the Palestinian problem will be resolved only when a Palestinian state is established, and [then] the Palestinian refugees will return and live in the Palestinian state. This is especially [an applicable solution] since there are wide-open available areas in the West Bank where the refugees could live."
"This is also true for Jerusalem. I do not think that there is a need to talk about Jerusalem right now. What is important for me is that Arafat and other Palestinian leaders will work to provide suitable living conditions for the Palestinian nation and for the Palestinian individual."...


And in 1999,

I do not believe that a final status agreement between Israel and the Palestinians would have any chance of succeeding if the Palestinians did not expressly declare that their state would solve all the problems of the Palestinian refugees and of the Palestinian people...When the agreement between Israel and the Palestinians is reached, the time will have come to draw up a covenant between the Jewish majority and the Arab minority within Israel. In this covenant, the latter would accept the fact that Israel is a Jewish state, with a Jewish majority, that its symbols are Jewish, its anthem is Jewish, and so on. At the same time, the Arab minority would be granted special national rights, or, in other words, cultural autonomy...


Who claims the Left has no plans?

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