Monday, August 04, 2008

Hey, Fellas, Let's Not Go Overboard

(Or, when is a Rabbi too Messianic?)
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Want a Bachelor of Theological Studies Degree with a Messianic Jewish Studies Concentration?

The Bachelor of Theological Studies of the Department of Messianic Jewish Studies at
The King’s College and Seminary at 14800 Sherman Way
Van Nuys, CA 91405 is a four-year degree program providing students with professional vocational training for ministry on a college level.

The degree offers a thorough and solid grounding in Bible, doctrine, and the practices of ministry within a strong Spirit-filled ethos. With a broad educational component, the curriculum enables students to formulate a biblical worldview and a biblical mindset for life. The Messianic Jewish Studies Concentration specifically prepares the student for effective ministry within the Jewish world. The Degree program provides the student with the foundational professional training necessary for vocational ministry or for entrance into a vigorous professional masters program.


Whew.

I guess in order to snare a Jew, one needs academic credentials.

And you need a Rabbi or two, like this one:

Messianic Rabbi Jonathan Bernis, a Jewish Believer in Yeshua (Jesus), is Executive Director of Jewish Voice Ministries International...Tens of thousands have responded to altar calls, and nearly one half of those coming to belief in Yeshua are Jewish. Jonathan is privileged to assist in the founding of more than a dozen new Messianic Jewish Congregations birthed by the Festival outreaches to the Former Soviet Union...He is founding Rabbi of Shema Yisrael Messianic Congregation in Rochester, N.Y., serving as Senior Messianic Rabbi from 1984-93...In his role as President of Christian Alliance for Israel, he oversees the organization of pro-Israel conferences and seminars to rally Christian support for Israel. He..has done extensive post-graduate study, including work on archaeological excavations in Israel. He and his wife, Elisangela, live in Phoenix with their daughter, Li’el, who was born in 2005.

And this Rabbi



is

Jonathan Cahn, President of Hope of the World ministries, Senior Pastor, and Rabbi of the Beth Israel Worship Center in Garfield, New Jersey...Descended of the line of Aaron, he has been asked to sound the Jubilee trumpet and minister among the nations, a prophetic ministry of and to the Jew and the Gentile in the last days. His teachings include the revealing of ancient mysteries, the depth and wonders of God's Word, and the restoration of the Gospel message in its original Biblically Jewish context, richness, and power.


Actually, he looks like one of the thieves (Luke 23) that were put up next to the Gallilean Jew.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is truly an "interfaith" venture. Don't just credit messianic pseudo rabbis with this mess. Dr./Pastor/Chancellor Jack Hayford of the Kings College and Seminary has his literal seal (crown and cross) of approval stamped right over the forehead of that innocent looking Yeshiva student on the homepage (just about where his tefillin would sit). Hayford is also a teacher at
the seminary and is a master of deception...

It seems Hayford duped Rabbi MK Benny Elon into appearing at the opening ceremony of Hayford's Messianic Jewish Restoration Conference at the International Convention Center in Jerusalem. Elon was asked by Hayford to "invoke the presence of God into their midst and lead them in prayer
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx5l3uGL4ZA

Just look at who the main speakers were at that conference:

http://www.foursquarechurch.org/landing_pages/52,3.html

Benny Elon is Chairman of the Knesset Christian Allies Caucus and claims that the Caucus works only with Christians who do not have missionary intentions and he claims to shun messiancs. But he keeps granting prayer requests and interviews to the most problematic characters.
http://www.houseofdavid.us/vidElon.html

With "best friends" like these...

Anonymous said...

Yisrael, regarding Ellen's last reference link to the House of David Ministries, the ministry is run by Curt and Christie Landry.

Without any degree and with a very clean cut look, guys like Curt Landry are nothing to laugh at like Grog the caveman in your article.

There's a possibility that Curt Landry is a meshumad. Read here.

Google for "rabbi curt landry" and you'll see that he is falsely associated with that title in numerous places.

Go to House of David's web store and you'll find how and why Pastor Hagee is their friend.

Listen to Landy in this video.

These are slick people with tons of money behind them - and this is just one little ministry in the bucket full of them throughout the US, Canada and Europe, who target Israel more than anything else, as part of their false prophecies and beliefs.

Have a good look around that House of David site. See their work in Beit Shean and Sderot. See their involvement in transporting poor needy Jews to Israel. Do you really think they love us "Le'sheim Shamayim"? They have someone else in their hearts in mind.

Go to their video page. One on one interviews with Benny Elon, Effi Eitam and even Rav Lau. What does that mean? Do these people approve of working with missionaries? Or does it mean that Jews, including our political and rabbinic echelons don't understand what a dangerous menace we're toying with?

We're being poisoned and the big money numbs us to what we're swallowing.

Halacha: Eisav Soneh et Ya'akov. Nothing has changed except for the weapon. Now their killing us softly with their siren song.

YMedad said...

Is there a clearing-house type blog that will help trace, link and identify in a simple way these dangers to the Jewish people?

Anonymous said...

I understand that there is a very ambitious project in the works along the lines you suggest.

Anonymous said...

I think ShyGuy's hate speech speaks for itself. I am more likely to be wary of YOU than the ministries and Rabbi you mention. Follow the love.

Anonymous said...

In reference to your comments about Curt Landry and House of David Ministries.

Landry is a born again believer in Yeshua. Almost all of his followers in his local congregation (church) are from protestant churches in the area.

He has publically told of his conversion to Yeshua while sitting in his bathtub around 1989.

His passion is to facilitate the immigration of Jews living in Eastern Europe to Israel. He calls himself a 'Christian Zionist'.

Does Landry support evangelical missionaries? Yes. Landry is a personal friend of Dr T.L. Osborn, perhaps the greatest American evangelist of the 20th century.

Landry had a 'tour' to Israel planned in 2009 with Osborn as the main attraction but had to cancel due to Osborn's failing health.

Landry was also connected the the late Billy Joe Daugherty, pastor of Victory Christian Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Landry is also connected to the charismatic prophets at Elijah List, www.elijahlist.com. A year or so ago, the two ministries did a combined tour to Israel, taking about 100 evangelicals from across the USA to Israel.

Most recently, Landry has been working with Perry Stone, the Pentecostal evangelist from the Church of God (Cleveland TN),Voice of Evangelism, appearing on his TV show last week.

If Landry is portraying himself as anything other than a Christian in Israel, he is being deceitful, because he is a bona-fide, born again believer in Yeshua.

All these facts are verifiable from his website and CD's of the messages he preaches, available for sale on his website.

Anonymous said...

One more interesting tid bit about Curt Landry and House of David Ministries.

Landry has another 'mission' in the form of My Olive Tree, My Olive Tree. Here is his quote from the website:

"Our mission is to create a partnership between the Evangelical community and the nation of Israel..."

To intice Christians to shell out almost $200 per tree, Landry has a 'spiritual' tie to his scheme, see My Olive Tree Project

Anonymous said...

The My Olive Tree project now costs $300 per tree. I'm told by insiders that Landry makes $100 per tree.

He is also selling 'special' holy anointing oil made from the trees.

They sell Judaica jewelry, tallits and rams horns, all at high prices.

Clearly this is merchandising the gospel.

Anonymous said...

He looks like a 'Were Wolf'! !

Anonymous said...

God save us from the altrui$m of Landry and his like. Bogus, bogus, bogus.

Anonymous said...

You have your head in the sand and without the power of the holy spirit at work in your mind and heart...you will throw stones at any one who defies your distorted views. Yeshua came to save G ds people...that's every one of us...even you, so sweeten up and surrender your heart to His love.

Anonymous said...

dear sir jonathan cahn is a fraud and his messanic jewish congregation is no different then the other phoney messanic jewish congregations they do not really attract jews to accept jewish they lure christian gentiles to act jewish and be bound to old testament customs and law jonathan cahns group is no different the leadership is not legalist but the people many are zelot legalist and jonathan cahn never speaks out against this i guess not to loss members which equal money thier is something wrong thier also a man who in his 40's who dates a 19 year old brazilian girl marries her when she is in her 20's and now he is 53 and she bore him 2 kids doesnt that sound odd and he keep the engagement a secret sound strange because they claim their were women in the congregation wanting to dating him and it turns out that man people left the church right after is marriage and the church announcemnt they were buying the building in wayne nj
and the fact that jonathan cah is sole head they have no board at that congregation so basicaly jonathan has full authority with no question or have to answer to anyone on his decision this and the so called hyped up security they claim they need and others things that goes on puts up a red flag on the legitimacy of beth israel as i said i think messanic judism is a crock to allow jews to accept jesus but keep thier legalist old testament practices and belief what about the verse
in the bible says we are new creation in christ and no longer bound to the old things why is not applied here

Anonymous said...

dear sir jonathan cahn is a fraud and his messanic jewish congregation is no different then the other phoney messanic jewish congregations they do not really attract jews to accept jusus they lure christian gentiles to act jewish and be bound to old testament customs and law jonathan cahns group is no different the leadership is not legalist but the people who go many are zelot legalist and jonathan cahn never speaks out against this i guess not to loss members which equal money thier is something wrong when a pastor who in his 40's who dates a 19 year old brazilian girl marries her when she is in her 20's and now he is 53 and she they have 2 kids doesnt that sound odd and he keep the engagement a secret sound strange because they claim their were women in the congregation wanting to dating him and it turns out that many people left the church right after is marriage and the church announcemnt they were buying the building in wayne nj
and the fact that jonathan cahn is sole head of the congregation they have no board members at that congregation so basicaly jonathan has full authority with no question or have to answer to anyone on his decision this and the so called hyped up security they claim they need and others things that goes on puts up a red flag on the legitimacy of beth israel as i said i think messanic judism is a crock to allow jews to accept jesus but keep thier legalist old testament practices and belief what about the verse
in the bible says we are new creation in christ and no longer bound to the old things why is not applied here