Sunday, May 17, 2009

Imagine, He Suggests

Daniel Gordis:

IMAGINE THAT ISRAELIS decide that by Jerusalem Day, this coming week, they want a deal. So we take down the security fence. We remove the checkpoints. We open all the roads, and Gaza's sea and air routes. We agree publicly to return to
something closely approximating the pre-1967 borders, and we accede to the
demands that parts of Jerusalem be internationally governed, or even put under
Palestinian control.

Does this end the conflict? Of course it doesn't. The Hamas Charter calls not only for the destruction of Israel, but for Islamic war on Jews everywhere. (Why do we consistently refuse to believe that Hamas means what it says?) What would change? The noose would tighten. The rockets would be fired from a shorter distance and the demand for the return of refugees (thus ending the Jewishness of the state) would persist. As was the case when Israel left Lebanon in May 2000 or Gaza in the summer of 2005, Israel's enemies would smell a weakened, bloodied state and would prepare for the next stage of their war.

But peace would not have come.

Much as we all want this conflict to end, does anyone really doubt that? There
is, as honest brokers must admit, nothing that Israel can do to end this conflict.

NOW, HOWEVER, TRY the opposite side of the thought experiment. Imagine that the Palestinians decide that they have tired of the conflict, or their electorate begins its long-overdue rebellion and insists on a settlement. So the Palestinians, Hamas and Fatah, demand everything Israel's agreed to above - an end to roadblocks and the wall, an opening of Gaza, a bridge or a tunnel between Gaza and the West Bank and a return to the 1967 borders. Let's say that they even insist on Palestinian control of east Jerusalem.

But they also recognize Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state. They agree to an immediate and permanent cessation of hostilities and violence (this is a thought experiment, after all) and insist that any other outstanding issues be negotiated and resolved with the US and the Quartet as intermediaries. And they require Israelis to vote within a month, no longer, on whether to accept the deal.

Will there be Israelis who object? Will there be residents of the West Bank who will resist leaving their homes? Yes, there will be. But would an Israeli plebiscite
overwhelmingly approve the offer? Without question. In a matter of weeks, three
quarters of a century of bloodshed and suffering would come to an end.

4 comments:

Suzanne Pomeranz said...

Will NEVER happen. And even if the pals wrote on paper that they recognize Israel's right to exist as a Jewish State, the agreement won't be worth the paper it's written on.

This "imagining" is all folly and a total waste of time.

g said...

If it's all about recognizing Jewish state and denouncing violence, it has to apply to both sides.
It's not only Hamas, but Isr. don't recognize Palestinian state and refuse to denounce violence.

This exercise of imagining would be a good beginning. You may actually like the feeling of being at peace and may try to work harder towards achieving a permanent peace.

It's not like you have an alternative to peace anyways....

YMedad said...

Galia,

In 1947, the Jews accepted the UN Partition thereby recognizing an Arab State in Palestine. The Arabs rejected the idea that a Jewish State should be established in Palestine. Since then, nothing basically has changed. In 1978, Menachem Begin (!) suggested autonomy. The Arabs rejected that. In 1993, again an Israeli government accepted the idea of an Arab state in Palestine. The Arabs accepted that and prepared for war and launched in in 1996 and continued in 2000.

I gave up long ago. Even before Hamas came on the scene.

g said...

Are you saying that Palestinians prefer to live under occupation rather than have their own state? It doesn't make any sense. I could go and dispute each and every instance that you mention that Israel recognized Palestinian state. But let's look at facts.

Yesterday, Natanyahu failed to recognize Palestinian state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_the_Palestinian_National_Authority

Haha, find Israel on that list for me. Ironically, appears once as voting AGAINST!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know why you keep pretending? It's a pitty that you can't express how you really feel.