...Israel, like any democracy, has a right to defend itself. That’s true, but there’s a gap in the reasoning. It has a right to defend itself. It doesn’t follow that it has a right to defend itself by force.
So we might agree, say, that, you know, the British army in the United States in the colonies in 1776 had a right to defend itself from the terror of George Washington’s armies, which was quite real, but it didn’t follow they had a right to defend themselves by force, because they had no right to be here. So, yes, they had a right to defend themselves, and they had a way to do it—namely, leave.
And he worshipped as a fount of wisdom?
Or is that container a pisspot?
(Kippah tip: LGF)
If you have trouble understanding why I am upset at the above, as if it isn't eminently clear, let's try this Chomskyian verbiage:
Israel can defend itself by stopping its crimes. Gaza and the West Bank are a unit. Israel, with US backing, is carrying out constant crimes, not only in Gaza, but also in the West Bank, where it is moving systematically with US support to take over the parts of the West Bank that it wants and to leave Palestinians isolated in unviable cantons, Bantustans, as Sharon called them. Well, stop those crimes, and resistance to them will stop.
I am sure certain people will find this most logical. Except for the fact that this bit - "stop those crimes, and resistance to them will stop" - is ridiculous.
You see, prior to 1967, Israel did not occupy the WB & G and had built no "settlements" therein and yet still there was not peace but terror, started by the PLO on January 1, 1964.
What 'crimes' had Israel committed then? It's existence?
Posts
5 comments:
The purpose of HAMAS is terrorism. Its charter is genocide, its method is war crimes.
My only complaint about Israel is it does not go far enough to route out that cancer. Like a cancer, a devotee of HAMAS was once vaguely human.
Israel didn't occupy the WB and G, but certainly comitted crimes.
Here are some :
1- "Al-Quds" Massacre - Late December 1937
A member of "ITZL" Zionist terrorist organization hurled a hand grenade at the vegetable marketplace adjacent to the "Nablus Gate" in Jerusalem. Scores of Arab citizens were either killed or injured.(1)
2 - "Haifa" Massacre - 6 March 1938
Members of the Zionist "ITZL" and "Lehi" terrorist gangs threw a grenade at the "Haifa" market, killing 18 Arabs and injuring 38.(2)
3 - "Haifa" Massacre - 6 July 1938
Terrorists of the "ITZL" Zionist gang exploded two booby-trapped vehicles in "Haifa" market, killing 21 Arabs and injuring 52.(3)
4 - "Al-Quds" Massacre - 13 July 1938
Ten Arabs were killed and 31 others injured in a horrible explosion in the Arab vegetable marketplace in "Old Jerusalem"!(4)
5 - "Al-Quds" Massacre - 15 July 1938
A member of "ITZL" terrorist gang hurled a hand grenade in front of a mosque in the city of Jerusalem at the end of the prayers, killing 10 Arabs and injuring 30 others.(5)
6 - "Haifa" Massacre - 25 July 1038
A booby-trapped car placed by "ITZL" Zionist terrorist gang exploded in the Arab market in "Haifa", killing 35
Arabs and injuring 70.(6)
7 - "Haifa" Massacre"- 26 July 1938
A member of "ITZL" gang threw a hand grenade in a market in "Haifa", killing 47 Arabs.(7)
8 - "AI-Quds" Massacre - 26 August 1938
A booby-trapped car placed by "ITZL" gang exploded in the market of Arab Jerusalem, killing 34 Arabs and injuring 35.(8)
9 - "Haifa" Massacre - 27 March 1939
"ITZL" gang exploded two grenades in "Haifa", killing 27 Arabs and injuring 39.(9)
10 - "Balad El-Sheikh" Massacre - 12 June 1939
It is a Palestinian Arab village southeast of Haifa. In 1945, it had a population of 4120 and an area of 22l donums. Its land area was 9849 donums.
On 12 June 1939, the "Haganah" Zionist terrorist gangs attacked the village. They kidnapped five of its inhabitants and murdered them.(10)
11 - "Haifa" Massacre - 19 June 1939
The Zionist invaders hurled a hand grenade in a marketplace in "Haifa", killing 9 Arabs and injuring 4.(11)
12 - "Haifa" Massacre - 20 June 1947
Seventy-eight Arabs were killed and 24 others were injured when a bomb exploded in the vegetable market in "Haifa". The bomb was hidden in a camouflaged vegetable box. "ITZL" and "Lehi" gangs had orchestrated the operation.(12)
13 - "Abbasiyya" Massacre - 13 December 1947
Abbasiyya is an Arab village, located 13 kms to the east of the city of "Jaffa". In 1945, it had a population of
5650, and an area of 101 donums. Its land area was 20540 donums.
The Massacre: On 13 December 1947, while the British mandate army was still controlling Palestine, the "Irgun" Zionist terrorist gang attacked the village of "Abbasiyya". The 24 attackers were disguised in the uniform of British soldiers. They fired at the village and blasted several homes. They fired at some people who were sitting in front of a café. The killers planted a number of time bombs and explosive charges in some of the houses. Many British soldiers arrived at the village but did not interfere, but they partially encircled the village, allowing the killers an access to flee from the northern side.
Seven Arabs were killed and seven others were seriously injured, two of whom died later, including a five-year old child, his 20-year old mother. Five others were injured when the time bombs exploded in the days following the massacre.(13)
14 - Arab AI-Khassas" Massacre - 18 December 1947
Al-Khassas is a Palestinian Arab village located north of "Al-Hula" plain. Its population in 1945 was 470, including the tribe of "Arab Al-Fadl" and its chief "Prince Fa’oor".
The Massacre: Following the Partition Resolution passed on 29 November 1947, while five Arab workers were on their way to their jobs, three Zionists of the "Ma’yan Baroch" settlement opened fire at the workers. As a result, one of the Zionist attackers was stabbed with a knife which led to his death. When the commander of the Third "Palmach" battalion which was stationed at "Atleet" area received the news of the killing of the Zionist, his deputy "Moshe Kalman" hurried to the scene of the accident. He ordered "Mola Cohen", the commander of the "Palmach" to carry out a retaliatory operation against the village, because killing one Jew is considered a sanctioning of Jewish blood". Though the murder charge against the inhabitants of the village was not proven, it was decided to attack "AlKhassas". "Moshe Carmel", commander of the "Labanoni" Brigade delivered an order to the Command of the Third Battalion from the Operations Division of the General Staff to carry out a retaliatory operation aimed at burning homes and killing men of the village.
The operation was executed on 18 December 1947 by two units of the brigade. The report of the force commander stated that 12 villagers were killed, including some women and children. However, it appeared later on that all the victims were women and children, because the men had left the village a short while prior to the massacre. Some Jewish sources said that 10 of the village population were killed, including five children, and that some victims were buried under the rubble of their homes.(14)
15 - "Al-Quds" Massacre - 29 December 1947
The "Irgun" Zionist gang threw a barrel full of explosives near "Bab Al-Amood" in "Jerusalem", killing 14 Arabs and injuring 27.(15)
l6 - "Al-Quds" Massacre - 30 December 1947
The "Irgun" terrorist gang hurled a bomb from a fast moving car, killing 11 Arabs.(16)
l7 - "Balad E1-Sheikh" Massacre - 3 1/12/1947 - 1/1/1948
The Massacre: On New Year eve, a joint force composed of the First Battalion of the "Palmach" and 01’ the "Carmeli" Brigade led by "Chaim Avinoam" attacked the village, killing 60 Arabs. According to the report of the commander of the massacre "Our forces silenced the sources of fire and entered the village. It started its action in the houses. The intense firing made it impossible to avoid women and children".
However, the New York Times correspondent said in a report published on 7/1/1948 "On New Year eve, the
"Haganah" attacked Balad El-Sheikh, claiming that the attack was in retaliation for the killing of the Jews in the clashess that took place in the "Refinery". The correspondent added: "While a group of the attackers were disguised wearing Arab white headcloth (kufia) were firing from the hills overlooking the village, another much larger group entered the outskirts of the village and attacked several houses with hand grenades and machineguns, killing many unarmed civilians, including children, women and elderly people".
This massacre, in addition to the other acts of violence, had a demoralizing effect on the Arab inhabitants of "Haifa" city. The history of the "Haganah" stated: "A force of 170 elements of the "Palmach" was ordered to encircle Balad El-Sheikh and to cause harm to as many men as possible. The attackers left behind more than 60 persons killed, including a number of women, children and old people".
One of the accounts estimated the number of martyrs at 30. The killers destroyed scores of houses in the village.(17)
For the sake of facts and history, most of the martyrs were Arab workers of the "Refinery" close to the village. The workers were from different villages who resided in the region of "Hawwasa", which is part of Balad El-Sheilch. Hawwasa was built of tin huts.
18 - "Sheikh Barbak" Massacre - 1947
It is an Arab village of the "Haifa" district.
The Masascre: In 1947, the Zionist terrorist gangs attacked the village killing 40 of its population.(18)
19 - "Jaffa" Massacre - 4 January 1948
"Stern" Zionist gang threw a bomb at a crowded square in "Jaffa" killing 15 and injuring 98.(19)
20 - The Massacre of "The Old Government House" in Jaffa
On 4 January 1948, the "Irgun" Zionist gang placed a car filled with explosives adjacent to the "Old Government House" in the city of "Jaffa". The blast destroyed the building and its vicinity. Thirty Arabs were killed and others injured. Among the victims were some of the educated youth of Jaffa.(20)
21 - "Semiramis" Massacre - 5 January 1948
The "Haganah" terrorist gang blasted with explosives "Semiramis" hotel situated in the Arab neighborhood of "Qatmoon" in "Jerusalem". The hotel was destroyed on its guests who were all Arabs. Nineteen Arabs were killed and 20 were injured. Following this massacre, the residents of Qatmoon began moving from it due to its vicinity of the Jewish neighborhoods.(21)
22 - "Al-Quds" Massacre - 7 January 1948
The "Irgun" terrorist gang threw a bomb on "Jaffa Gate"
in Jerusalem, killing 18 Arabs and injuring 41.(22)
23 - The "Arab Saraya" Massacre - 8 January 1948
The "Arab Saraya" (Arab Government House) is a tall building situated opposite the well-known "Jaffa City Clock". The building housed the headquarters of the Arab National Committee in Jaffa. The Zionist terrorist gangs placed a booby-trapped car the explosion of which killed 70 Arabs. And wounded scores more.
The Zionist Army magazine Pama Haneh, in its issue of 4 January 1978, gave details of this massacre as recounted by its perpetrator "Rahamim Hakmoob".(23)
24 - "Ramleh" Massacre - 15 January 1948
The Zionist terrorists perpetrated a massacre in the town of Ramleh. The killers were from the "Palmach’ soldiers under the command of "Yigal Allon", Yitzhak Rabin" and "David Ben Gurion" of the Ziouist "Haganah" terrorist organization. On that day, members of this terrorist gang threw bombs at one of the Arab houses in the town. This forced the Arab citizens living in the area to flee to nearby "Sarafand" after the Zionist terrorists showered them with bullets.(24)
25 - "Haifa" Massacre - 16 January 1948
Zionist terrorists disguised in the uniforms of British soldiers entered a store near the "Maghrebi Building" located in Salahuddin street in the city of "Haifa" under the pretext of inspection. They placed a time bomb which exploded, destroying the building and its vicinity, killing 31 men, women and children and injuring double that number.(25)
26 - "Yazoor" Massacre - 22 January 1948
Yazoor is a Palestinian Arab village five kms to the southeast of"Jaffa". In 1945, its population was 4030.
The Massacre: On 22 January 1948, the operations commander of the "Haganah" Zionist organization issued an order to the commander of the "Palmach, Yigal Allon saying: "You must carry out as quickly as possible and without further orders an operation against the village of Yazoor. The aim is to disturb the village for a long time, by infiltrating into it and scorching some houses. I authorize you to select the method you deem fit".
Two hours after the issuance of the order, a group of the "Palmach" attacked a bus near "Yazoor", injuring the driver and some passengers. On the same day, another group attacked a second bus killing and injuring a number of persons. The "Palmach" and the "Jaf’ati" brigade attacks against Yazoor and the Arab vehicles heading for it remained relentless for twenty continuous days. Other units exploded charges near the houses.
On 22 January 1948, the "Haganah" command decided to attack Yazoor and to blast off the ice plant and two adjacent buildings. The planning for the operation was assigned to Yithak Rabin, the operations officer of the "Palmach". The ofifcer in charge of the training section at that time was Brig. "Yitzrael Tal". It was decided to start the attack with the break of dawn. At night, the attacking forces entered Yazoor through the orange groves.
The group of "Tal" opened fire on the ice pla?t in thç village, while other groups opened fire and hurled hand grenades at the houses. The group of "Jeshua Nabo" blasted the gate of the "Iskandaroni" building and the ice plant building.
The massacre led to the killing of 15 martyrs of Yazoor inhabitants, most of whom were murdered while asleep.(26)
27 - "Haifa" Massacre - 28 January 1948
The Zionist terrorists of "Hadar" neighbourhood overlooking the Arab "Abbas Street" in the city of "Haifa", hurled a barrel filled with explosives. It destroyed the houses over their inhabitants. Twenty Arabs were killed and about 50 were injured.(27)
28 -"Tirat Tulkarm" Massacre - 10 February 1948
Al-Tira is a Palestinian Arab village in the district of "Tulkarm". In 1945, its population counted 3180, and its area was 96 donums, while its land area was 31359 donums. The Zionist invaders occupied it in 1948.
The Massacre: On 10 February 1948, a group of Zionist terrorists stopped a number of Arab citizens who were on their way back to "Tirat Tulkarm" and fired on them, killing seven and injuring five others.(28)
29 - "Saasaa" Massacre - 14 February 1948
Saasaa is a Palestinian Arab village 20 kms from the city of Safad. In 1945, it had a population of 1130. The Zionist invaders occupied it on 16 February 1948 while Palestine was still under the British mandate.
The Massacre: On the night of 14 February 1948, a force belonging to the third "Palmach" battalion attacked the village of "Saasaa" and destroyed 20 houses over their inhabitants, though the villagers raised the white flags and offered a "sheep" to the army. The massacre resulted in killing around 60 people, most of them were women and children.
The Zionist daily Yediot Aharonot published on 14 April 1972 an account by the terrorist "Moshe Coleman", commander of "Yiftah" brigade, the perpetrator of the massacre. He said: "We proceeded to work on the night of 14 February 1948 in a purely Arab area. The target was 25 kms from our base. I led 68 men armed with light weapons and explosives. We sneaked into the village from the north in order to penetrate it by surprise. We placed 35 explosive charges and withdrew under darkness. A number of women and children were injured as a result of the operation.(29)
30 - "Al-Quds" Massacre - 20 February 1948
The "Lehi" Stern Zionist gang stole a British army vehicle, filled it with explosives then parked it in front of al-Salaam building in Jerusalem. Its explosion killed 14 Arabs and injured 26.(30)
31 - "Haifa" Massacre - 20 February 1948
The Zionist invaders attacked the Arab quarters in the
city of Haifa, killing 6 and injuring 36.(31)
32 - "Al-Hussainiyya" Massacre - 13 March 1948
Al-Hussainiyya is an Arab village in the district of "Safad".
The Massacre: On 13/3/1948, the ".Haganah" Zionist terrorist gang attacked the village, destroying its houses with explosives, killing 30 of the inhabitants.(32)
33 - "Abu Kabir" Massacre - 31 March 1948
The "Haganah" Zionist gangs attacked the quarter of Abu Kabir" in the city of"Jaffa", destroyed homes and killed the inhabitants who were fleeing for safety.(33)
34 - "Haifa (Jaffa) Train" Massacre - 31 March 1948
The "Haganah" Zionist gang blew up the Jaffa-Haifa Train" while passing near "Nataniya", killing 40 people.(34)
35 - "Cairo-Haifa Train" Massacre - 31 March 1948
The "Stern" Zionist gang planted mines in the "CairoHaifa" express train, killing 40 persons and injuring 60.(35)
36 - A1-Ramleh" Massacre - March 1948
The Zionist terrorists planned this massacre and executed it in March 1948 in the marketplace of AlRamleh town, where 25 Arab citizens were ki1led.(36)
37 - "Deir Yassin" Massacre - 9/10 April 1948
Deir Yassin is an Arab village about 6 kms to the west of "Jerusalem". In 1945, its population counted 610, its area covered 12 donums, and its land area 2857 donums. The Zionist invaders occupicd it on the same day of the massacre.
The Massacre: On the morning of Friday, 9 April 1948, the thugs of "Irgun" and "Stern" Zionist terrorist gangs surprised the inhabitants of Deir Yassin and attacked them without any distinction between child, woman or old people. They mutilated the bodies of the victims and threw them in the water well of the village. Most victims were women, children and old people. The British did not dare to send their troops.
The massacre was perpetrated according to a scheme orchestrated by the "Jewish Agency", with the knowledge of the "Haganah". The Zionists had in mind a remote objective, and they succeeded in achieving it. They planted fear and terror in all Arab villages, whose people began to flee in panic. The Arab press at the time unintentionally helped in fulfilling the Zionist objective by recounting the gruesome details of the abominable, brutal crime.(37)
The force comprised 3000 terrorists, accompanied by armored vehicles.(38) Menachem Begin led the "lrgun" or "ITZL" gang, while Yitzhak Shamir led the "Stern" or Lehi gang. The commander of the attack was "Yehusha Zattler".(39) The commander of the unit that buried the victims was called "Nishrin Shev".(4o) It was also said that the commander of the attack was "Labidot".(41) The massacre lasted for 13 hours, that is, until noon of Saturday, 10 April 1 948.(42) There were conflicting reports about the number of victims. Some reports estimated them at between 87 and 256, others estimated them at 300, and others at over 100. The Red Cross discovered on 10 April the bodies of 254 men, women and children.(43) Twenty-five pregnant women were massacred, as well as 25 children under ten. At least half of the victims were women and children.(44)
The methods used in perpetrating the massacre included, inter alia, lining the men against the wall and firing at them.(45) Each time the killers occupied a house, they would blow it up. Whole families were lined against the wall and shot dead with rifles... Young girls were raped...A pregnant woman was butchered first, then they slit open her abdomen with a butcher’s knife... A small girl tried to take the embryo but was shot dead... Some of the "lrgun" gang dismembered the bodies into pieces... The hands and ears of women were cut off or chopped, in order to steal their bracelets, rings or earrings(46)... Limbs of children were cut...and the killers destroyed a children’s school completely and killed the schoolteacher.
Reserve Colonel "Meir Baeel", who was in the ranks of the "Irgun" on the day of the massacre, described what he saw. He said in the Zionist daily Yediot Aharonot on 4 April, 1972: "After the fire stopped, it was noontime, the attackers began clearing up the houses. They took out 25 men and transported them in a truck; and we paraded in the Jewish quarter of "Mahaneh". At the end of the tour, they were brought to the stone quarry between "Gafaat Shaoul" and "Deir Yassin" and were murdered in cold blood.(47)
The Deir Yassin massacre accelerated the departure of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from their homes, only a few weeks prior to the creation of the Zionist entity on 15 May, 1948.(48)
The terrorist "Menachem Begin", leader of the "Irgun" Zionist terrorist gang, which perpetrated the massacre, said: "A wave of indignation swept throughout the Arab countries and the entire world for what they called the ‘Jewish massacres’. This Arab propaganda was meant to distort our reputation, but produced for us much good. Fear pervaded the hearts of the Arabs. The village of ‘Kalonia’, which used to repel the continuous ‘Haganah’ attacks, was deserted by its inhabitants overnight and surrendered without any fight. The inhabitants of ‘Beit Tksa’ fled too; this village and ‘Kalonia’ were overlooking the highway. By falling and with the occupation of ‘Al-Kastal’, the Jewish rorces were able to control the road to Jerusalem ... In many other places, the Arabs were fleeing without clashing with the Jews in any fight. The Deir Yassin legend helped us keep ‘Tiberias’ and occupy ‘Haifa".(49)
And the list goes on and on
http://web.archive.org/web/20040524234337/http://en.falastiny.net/books/massacres/massacres1.htm
with 2009 which we just became a witness of.
and you don't think we have a similar list but one that the Arabs started? try these here 1920-21 and here 1929 and an overview of 30 years here
galia,
with your excellent memory for victims, can you retrieve my cousin Dorian Reitman, killed and mutilated beyond recognition by the Arabs in 1948? Why did the Arabs kill him? Explain!
This question is to God and not to me.
Post a Comment