Showing posts with label Thomas Friedman. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Thomas Friedman. Show all posts

Sunday, January 12, 2014

Would You Believe Human Rights Watch?

One of the albatrosses around Ariel Sharon's image neck was the Sabra and Shatilla massacre.

You might have read this today:

Human Rights Watch (HRW) issued a statement on Saturday, stressing that Sharon “died without facing justice for his role in the massacres of hundreds and perhaps thousands of civilians by Lebanese militias in the Sabra and Shatilla refugee camps in Lebanon in 1982.”... The militias killed between 700 and 800 people, according to Israeli military intelligence estimates; other estimates were much higher. The dead included infants, children, pregnant women, and the elderly, some of whose bodies were found to have been mutilated.

Uri Dan, in his "Blood Libel", quotes on page 15 from the report by Assad Germanos who found that 460 had been killed in the camps but only 15 were women and 30 children.  The majority of those killed were of the age of terrorists.

Thomas Friedman vehemently disagreed not only with those findings but with the man and his mission.

In a letter-to-the-editor to his own newspaper (!), he wrote, in part, 

...the only organization that kept even partial records of the dead was the International Committee of the Red Cross, which helped to bury many of them in a mass grave. The committee, according to its report, which is available in its Beirut office, listed 356 people as having been buried - 146 by friends and relatives and 210 by the Red Cross. Of the 210 the Red Cross buried, 38 were women, 32 were children and 140 were men of all ages. The same one-to-three proportion of women and children to men is assumed to apply to the other 146 known buried and the other several hundred buried by family and never recorded - a far cry from Mr. Roche's figures.

He also surmised a supposition after making an assumption there above:-
...No doubt many young Palestinians of fighting age were killed. I saw bodies of all ages. But I have news for Mr. Roche: if there had been as many ''terrorists'' in the camp as he claims, they would have been strong enough to defend themselves and there never would have been a massacre. 

Who, or what do you believe?

And read EOZ.





Wednesday, January 18, 2012

Thomas Friedman At It Again - Bribed By Ideology?

Despite his response to my post on his thinking, and the first version is here to which he responded, and his "explanation", DG in his Media Sampler, is still bothered - as we all should be - regarding the intentions of Thomas Friedman's writings on behalf of Egypt and ultimately, the Muslim Brotherhood:

1) I never met an Islamist I didn't think was moderate

How can you tell when an expert who predicted one outcome realizes he is wrong? When he starts telling you that a different outcome isn't so bad.

A week and a half ago Thomas Friedman naively told us that the victory of the Islamists in Egypt was a good thing. To be sure there were skeptics (and me, too).

Today, in Trust but Verify, Friedman walks back his earlier unbridled enthusiasm.

Friedman starts by observing that Deputy Secretary of State Bill Burns met with a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, who declared that his organization's relationship with the United States was important.

(The full statement Friedman referred to is here:

Dr. Morsi called on the United States to rethink its strategies and change its policies toward the people in line with the Arab Spring revolutions, and to take more positive positions toward Arab and Islamic issues, because evident bias of U.S. administrations against Arab issues in the past never was in the US’s favour. Morsi added that the FJP is convinced of the importance of Egyptian-American relations, which must be based on balance between both parties.

The "balance" Morsi referred to is demanding that American not to be so closely allied with Israel.)

Then Friedman noted that MEMRI reported that the Muslim Brotherhood's website was filled with antisemitic imagery and articles and that a leading Coptic businessman was charged with "contempt for religion."

Skeptics might say that the Muslim Brotherhood leader was cynically seeking to reassure a major donor that his country's billions in aid would be money well spent, but that the Brotherhood was really an extreme organization. Thomas Friedman is so much more sophisticated than that ...

There are two ways to read these news reports. One is that the Brotherhood and other Islamists are cleverly hoodwinking the naïve foreigners, feeding them the lines they want to hear. The other is that the Islamists never expected to be dominating Egypt’s new Parliament — with more responsibility than other parties for completing the country’s democratic transition, constitution-writing and election of a new president — and they are trying to figure out how to reconcile some of their ideology, with all of their new responsibilities.
My view is that both can be — and are — true at the same time.
In my mind, we all have to guard against lazy happy talk about the rise of the Islamist parties in Egypt (“I’ve met with them; they all seem reasonable”) and lazy determinism (“Just read what they say in Arabic; they clearly have a secret plan to take over Egypt”).


Of course Friedman filled his earlier column with "lazy happy talk" based on a few superficial interviews. The other side is based on an extensive archive of material, which can't be so easily dismissed.

Friedman continues:

In the happy talk department, please don’t tell me that the rule of Turkey’s Islamist Justice and Development Party, known as the A.K.P., proves that no one has anything to fear about Islamists taking power democratically. There is much I admire in the A.K.P.’s performance. (The recent suggestion by Gov. Rick Perry of Texas that the A.K.P. is a party of “Islamic terrorists” is shockingly stupid.) But I will only cite the A.K.P. as a reassuring example of Islam and democracy in harmony after I see it lose an election and vacate power. That is the real test. As The Economist noted about the rule of the A.K.P. in Turkey in its Nov. 26 issue, “Around 76 journalists are now behind bars” in Turkey, “more than in China, many of them for supposed terrorist crimes. ... The West does not seem to notice the steady deterioration in human rights in Turkey, instead extolling it as a model for the Arab spring.”

Gov. Perry's reference isn't far from the truth as AKP does have ties with IHH, an international terrorist organization.

Friedman's condition for looking favorably on the AKP, its vacating power after losing an election, is a pipe dream as everything Erdogan's government doing is aimed at consolidating its hold on power and marginalizing its opponents.

So Friedman suggests engagement:

America needs to offer the Islamists firm, quiet (you can easily trigger a nationalist backlash) and patient engagement that says: “We believe in free and fair elections, human rights, women’s rights, minority rights, free markets, civilian control of the military, religious tolerance and the Egypt-Israel peace treaty, and we will offer assistance to anyone who respects those principles.”

And what if America offers those things and the Muslim Brotherhood continues playing the double game of nice words to America but not so nice words in its own milieu? That isn't something that Friedman addresses.

But why should we trust Friedman. In a 2006 column, The Weapon of Democracy, Friedman concluded:

But Hamas will have its hands full managing the West Bank, where it doesn't have as many people or arms as Fatah. As the Israeli strategist Gidi Grinstein put it, Hamas "is like a snake that swallowed an elephant." It has a lot to digest before it can move sharply in any direction.
Hisham Abdullah, the West Bank A.F.P. reporter, told me that when he went into Ramallah's main bookstore the other day and asked what was selling, the owner said he'd noticed Hamas people buying Dale Carnegie books on management.


This is just another way of saying that the burdens of governing will moderate Hamas. No doubt those Dale Carnegie books advised building up Gaza's armaments and planning ways to attack Israel, which is what Hamas did for the next couple of years leading up to Cast Lead.

It's clear that Friedman has backtracked a bit from his earlier column in that he at least is entertaining the idea that Islamists may not be democratic exemplars. However, his equivocation here and his own history suggest that he will go far to excuse the excesses of Islamists in power.

Lazy or corrupted thinking?

No, not by a bribe. But by ideology?

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Thursday, April 24, 2008

Something I've Always Wanted to Do...

...Pie Tom Friedman:



Here are the details:

Just seconds into his speech [at Brown University in Rhode Island], he was interrupted by two environmental activists, who stormed the stage shortly after Friedman stepped up to the microphone, tossing two paper plates loaded with shamrock-colored whipped cream at him.

Friedman ducked, and was left with only minor streams of the sugary green goo on his black pants and turtleneck.

He stood in bewilderment and mild disgust as the young man and woman bolted from the stage and out the side door, throwing a handful of fliers into the air to relay the message they apparently were not going to deliver personally.

“Thomas Friedman deserves a pie in the face…,” the flier said, “because of his sickeningly cheery applaud for free market capitalism’s conquest of the planet, for telling the world that the free market and techno fixes can save us from climate change. From carbon trading to biofuels, these distractions are dangerous in and of themselves, while encouraging inaction with respect to the true problems at hand…”

After five minutes, Friedman returned to the stage undeterred, with only faint traces of the green cream on his clothing.

Monday, November 26, 2007

Yet Another Non-Published Letter to the NYT

Thomas Friedman suggests that "if the Middle East could use more of anything these days it is more mingling — if not between the sexes then at least between the sects", ("The Case for Internmingling", Nov. 25). Witty, perhaps. However, the consequences for Israel until then are fraught with danger.

For if Arab Muslims, in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Gaza District, et.al., act so injudiciously, so cruelly and so immorally one to another within the same religion, what can the Jews of Israel, not only an enemy based on nationalistic misunderstandings but of a different religion altogether, expect? Should not an Israel-Arab peace wait until Arab Muslims make peace among themselves?