Showing posts with label David Kimche. Show all posts
Showing posts with label David Kimche. Show all posts

Thursday, November 20, 2008

Kimche Klunks - One, Two, Three

David Kimche is one of Israel's more liberal-loose persons.

Liberal in terms of political orientation and loose in terms of his thinking.

He brought Jimmy Carter to a public & press conference recently, the only Israeli organization to host him even after the Government shunned contacts with him.

He had an op-ed published in the International Herald Tribune, that bastion of the loony left and the minuscule moonies of Israel.

He makes several points.

One.

The three-state solution envisions Israel, the West Bank, which is governed by the Palestinian Authority, and Gaza, now ruled by Hamas, as separate states. The Palestinians would never accept such a plan. Historically they are one people and cannot be divided artificially


Okay, so he doesn't include my four-state analysis but notice how the fact that the Pals. will simply not accept the plan sinks it. If the Israelis did that? They'd be pressured, ostracized, demonized, etc.

Two.

We simply have no choice but to talk to our enemies


We also could simply combat them, offset them, stalemate them. And as if we haven't been talking with them for more than 40 years, or even 60 if we include Golda Meir's trip in disguise to see Abdallah in 1947-48. All this talking with them has led nowhere.

Three.

There will always be some Palestinians who oppose reaching an agreement with Israel. There are also elements in Israel who oppose negotiating with Palestinians.


Great. Kimche creates a moral equivalence between Pals. who oppose, and they do that by killing civilians and Israelis who oppose who build houses and schools and plant and have industry.

Wednesday, April 30, 2008

A Letter of Mine in the Jerusalem Post

Kimche's errors

Sir, - David Kimche's apologetics for hosting Jimmy Carter are rife with error ("Why we hosted Carter," April 24). He admits that he and colleagues of the Israel Council for Foreign Relations were engaged in "much soul-searching" over whether to invite Carter to address that forum. Claiming that the council is "an independent apolitical body," however, Kimche makes his first error. As anyone who has access to the Web can read, it is actually a "non-governmental body headquartered in Jerusalem under the auspices of the World Jewish Congress."

Kimche makes his second error when he justifies Carter's criticism of what Kimche terms "Israel's behavior in the occupied territories" by referring to the behavior of "the settlers in Hebron." Setting aside the gross generalization in the use of "the settlers," by accepting the term "occupation" Kimche is making a very political statement. A more apolitical text should have been employed such as "administered." Another error of Kimche is his claim that Carter "tried to be more even-handed." But when the former US president stated that "despair causes both sides to resort to violence," was that truly even-handed or, more appropriately, was it another example of Carter's moral inequivalency as applied to Israel?

Another error of Kimche is his assertion that "the large audience that heard his speech... were impressed by his sincerity and appreciative of his efforts." I was present and I would insist that the audience was a "home court side." There were diplomats, many Arabs from the disputed territories, Israeli peaceniks, representatives of the Christian Peace Team and many journalists. It was a stacked deck.

Although I raised my hand, time ran out for my question but it was phrased thus: Mr. Carter, you have met with Hamas, persons you call terrorists but you ignore the Jewish communities in the areas of Samaria and Judea. You were sent several invitations over the years to come see how we have developed since the time you demanded the destruction of a renewed Jewish village that in fact has recently celebrated its 30th anniversary. In not coming, do you think us as worse than the Hamas?

Having heard Carter, thanks to and despite Kimche, I now realize that it probably would not have been worthwhile to have invited him.

YISRAEL MEDAD
Shiloh